Since I did the last update i notice you can't set it record past what the program is set to end 

sure you can

How i can't seem to be able to do it only if the chsnnel doesn't hsve any information in the epg.i try many of times but I tried doing on many channels and I tried schedule it pass the time it's supposed to end but when I always go to the extract time it supposed to end when I hit save 

I just select a different end time and then select set recording